Contributing editor Mim Udovitch interviews aging Rolling Stones guitarist and unlikely traditionalist Keith Richards in Details, December 1995:

Mim Udovitch:

Are there any drugs you haven't done?

Keith Richards:

Oh yeah, there's loads of the new ones. I have no time for the modern drugs, because they've gone to all this trouble to take the high out. What's the point of taking those drugs? And they're bad for you! Quite honestly, if you want to go to sleep, you're better off with a good old barbiturate like Tuinal or Numbutal or Secanol. It works straight on your heart and it'll be flushed out of your body the next day. But nooooo. They're going to make you a drug that they don't know what it does to you. They'd rather kill you than have you get a buzz. I've studied this s***. I'm a walking laboratory.

Mim Udovitch:

You know, I believe a few people may have died taking barbiturates.

Keith Richards:

Yeah, they sure have, but a lot more have died on your Xanaxes and Halcions and goddamn Quaaludes and all that other stuff they've been giving you all since. This is what makes people drive into restaurants and post offices and blow people away. You find out afterward they're into this newfangled nonsense. I mean, with barbiturates, if you want to overdo it and take ten, you're not going to kill yourself. I mean, maybe. Maybe not.

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